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Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.27 11:12:00 -
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Jafit McJafitson wrote:Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Dust mercs will be conquering planets in lawles space so i think high sec is secure for now. It will focus in Null and Low sec Good. We wouldn't want anything threatening to impede highsec players' income now would we.
Unlike the now existant equivalently exhoberant tax changes paid exclusively to the NPCs, applied as a result of Crucible?
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Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.27 11:24:00 -
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Well these are specific taxes linked to the extraction of High sec AI, based upon their tier, at Custom offices not the other increased change in value of NPC corporation taxes.
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Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.27 11:26:00 -
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Jafit McJafitson wrote:Grumpy Owly wrote:Jafit McJafitson wrote:Akrasjel Lanate wrote:Dust mercs will be conquering planets in lawles space so i think high sec is secure for now. It will focus in Null and Low sec Good. We wouldn't want anything threatening to impede highsec players' income now would we. Unlike the now existant equivalently exhoberant tax changes paid exclusively to the NPCs, applied as a result of Crucible? Oh no, now I have to pay tax on my risk-free money!
Just saying that your point is invalid as usual. And as a result of those changes affords yet another income stream for areas other than High sec.
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Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.27 16:26:00 -
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PI Dev announcement ages ago.
The planets themselves are controlled in terms of import/export by CONCORD and the associated rights attributable to the empire holders. For which the situation has overall been made doubley worse for High sec players in the case of imports and exports.
The change dissallows possible income generations that say other areas of space can use as an extra method. As such the changes have allready impeded high sec player income from PI and potentially allowed a further profiteering opportunity for any landlord in other regeons.
What you also fail to realise is that this change has made it potentially much more harder for anyone in high sec to compete equivalently with any industrial production utilising PI or equally fueling of POSs on an equal footing as the associated overheads are intrinsically designed here that other areas in high sec will potentially have to pay more for, in this sense high sec will struggle to compete as on an equivalent basis as a result. So sit back in your nice safe Goon pockets and capatalise on the further designs to encourage ISK into your pockets.
As such to say that the the income hasn't been impeded when it ALREADY has and at the same time removes the income generating possibilites makes your statement INVALID. Whilst allowing others to potentially capatalise further from their control of space. Especially when you consider the number of players with their alts effectively using these facilities and the amounts of isk involved.
When Dust arrives I'll similarly leave CCP to rebalance the risk/reward equation as appropriatley as they like. Or maybe as others like yourselves will simply continue to drive all useful isk generators as an aspect for null sec only in the hope you will change the environment to your favour?
However, if the High sec (NPC) landlords cant keep sensible maintentance and control over their planets, then you could argue wether the appropriate payment or taxation for those services is in fact equally fair. Although it would be interesting to see just how much of an overhead it would be for opposition to occurs.
Or maybe Concord and the empires will similarly just enable ships from space to freely blast away at their communities and citizens as they see fit? How daft would that be? Especially in High sec where they actively police these issues. And with out seeing the changes to War situations could make it complicated as to how you prevent orbital strikes from NPC affiliated individuals. Or the fact they wouldn't take measures to stop these waring corporations.
Oh no the entire universe needs a self-propelled orientation where everything needs to be in conflict with something else for anything to actually happen according to your philisophy and nothing should be promoted as civilised. Oh no the entrire universe should be burning.
Either way I'm kind of hoping that CCP will adjudge a sensible balance to this complicated process. But I'm sure you'll get yet another nerf applied that will move the ISK generating balance of power in favour of null overall.
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Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.27 16:29:00 -
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To be honest Jafit, it is idiots like you with this must apply nerfhammer to high sec features whilst ensuring you have all the toys, best isk generators and control that in fact continuing to propogate the idea of how selfish and self obessed you are. It is a very ugly picture you are painting. But for me I simply pity the hate injected campaigns by certain organisations and the ongoing MetaWin approach you stand for.
Just a shame you see as so important to use CCP as the methods to suplement your efforts. But I'm personally sick to the stomach with all the whining baby Goonies:
Please CCP we can't use tactics or stratergy and diplomacy to solve the super cap fleet problem that we allowed on an equal footing in a Sandbox game can you nerf it for us?
Please CCP don't allow high sec to have a valid bounty system that would empower them to strike back at our Hulkageddon campaign or other attacks of soft industrials, we like our inequality here to effect other areas. Whilst using this risk aversion tactics in the existing mechanics. Wonder why the bounty system has remained on the shelf for so long? Or why they tried to propose to have 10% - 20% of insurance paid to the ganker?
Please CCP incursions in high sec allows them to have money even though we have a higher and better version we can use in our Sov space.
Please CCP can we remove the possibility of others capatalising from moon tech, oh but were keeping the money and the assests we generated from it btw, is that ok EvE community? And we don't want to nerf it completely we just want to reduce it a bit as we like our amassed greater number still. Which in essence supposedly applies a territorial advantage, something the goonies havent amassed a nice slice for themselves of course.
Please CCP can we add extra steps into the CSM voting process to make it harder for anyone else to get voted on to have an effective voice in this arena.
Please CCP don't allow miners to have a more effective position in game, it only goes against our warring stratergy of Hulkageddon. And supposed none use of mining as the C&P channel would have us believe.
Please CCP let us move more of our larger null sec capitals into WH space, we dont like the idea that they might get a small powerbase.
Interestingly although no owner can be identified:
From the CSM minutes, "One CSM stated a point in favor of removing learning implants, as that would be a nerf to highsec income, and he is always in favor of those where possible."
Otherwise I would simply encourage people to actually read the CSM minutes if you havent already to see how null orientated they are for themselves, theres even an AOB section in one area, where literally all the points seems to be focussing on null sec interests:
http://www.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2011/CSM_CCP_Mettings_7-9_12_2011.pdf
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Grumpy Owly
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.01.27 17:16:00 -
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Nah, please dont get me wrong, I really don't have any beef with the majority of nullsec on this at all.
This is as was indicated if you read back purely a focus on the Goons and the way they behave in their meta politics and what they stand for.
I have no real problem with the risk/reward model as I tried to indicate. But i wont have the considerations afforded into the systems attempted to be nullified with such an unreasonable perspective.
EvE is a sandbox sure that should be balanced etc. But these idiots take the exploitation of gaming systems to a different level.
The comments I made here I repeat is something I notice specifically about the Goons, just to be clear, as I don't want to isolate players when its undeserved.
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